[04:32:42 PM]
=> Welcome to the Live Chat Session :
Mr Rajan will be joining shortly
[04:34:42 PM] => DISCLAIMER
[04:35:26 PM] => Mr.
S.N.Rajan is the CIO of Kotak Mahindra Asset Management Company.
At the time of this conversation / chat, Mr. Rajan may or
may not have positions in the stocks mentioned below , although
holdings may change at any time.
[04:36:38 PM] => The
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[04:41:54 PM] => Svenkateshwarlu:
Can I buy Infosys?
[04:42:37 PM] => SNR:
Infosys is certainly one of the best companies in IT services
and has established itself in the global market. This view
on the company should be distinctly distinguished from a view
on the stock. Infosys becoming a good buy depends clearly
on what one is paying for the stock.
[04:43:08 PM] => .
The stock currently trades at around 33 times current year
earnings and the company has indicated that it will grow at
about 30 %. Considering the fact that it is a leader in the
sector a multiple of upto 35 is sustainable. Any higher multiple
is possible only if the company surprises on the earnings
front as most analysts expect it to and pointers to this front
will be evident after first quarter results.
[04:44:53 PM] => Rkay992001: What
is your view on rolling settlements?
[04:45:53 PM] => SNR: Volumes
will certainly take a beating after introduction of the rolling
settlement. Speculative interest will spill over to the derivatives
segment. Further with removal of circuit filters we will witness
greater volatility whenever there is big buying or selling
in a stock. This will throw more opportunities for trading
if one spots these movements.
[04:46:45 PM] => Murtazafk: Is
the current price of Nath Seeds is worth buying?
[04:48:35 PM] => SNR: I have no
view on the stock. But if your interest in the stock is just
because it is a biotech stock I would request you to look
at the balance sheet before you take a view on the stock.
[04:49:06 PM] => Virafsigan: I
have lost 80% in Birla advantage fund & SBI equity, balanced
fund.in one year. Should I stay invested in these funds or
should I switch over to Alliance and Kothari Pioneer funds
who are doing much better.
[04:49:53 PM] => SNR: Being from
the industry I would pass this one. You must look at performance
rankings provide by various agencies before you take a view
on any of the funds that you chose to invest/redeem.
[04:50:54 PM] => Jrvora: I have
purchased 500 shares of HFCL @700 when the turn is came?
[04:51:45 PM] => SNR: What price
you purchased should not drive the decision to hold the stock.
If you think there is a better safer stock you must shift
to the same
[04:52:43 PM] => Gmohanty:
What is futures of gilt fund (45 days to 90 days)?
[04:53:02 PM] => Gmohanty: What
is futures of gilt fund (45 days to 90 days)?
[04:54:26 PM] => SNR: The last
one year return has been around 15 % for most gilt funds.
Going forward it may not be that high but for the period that
you are suggesting, gilt funds with shorter maturities could
give returns of around 8 % per annum.
[04:54:52 PM] => Cherry: Which
are the stocks you invest in bear market, the stocks which
have fallen more or stocks which have remained fairly stable?
[04:56:36 PM] => SNR: Stocks which
have fallen more because of any unfavourable events in the
company should be avoided. Momentum stocks which have fallen
during the bear market by very definition can be expected
to move up when markets take a turn. Stocks which have remained
stable normally remain stable even during the upturn.
[04:57:33 PM] => Reddykambal:
How to get dividend? i.e when to buy shares to get dividend?
[04:58:18 PM] => SNR: Dividends
can be received only if the company declares a dividend .
When companies declare dividend there is an announcement about
a record date. If one has bought shares earlier and if one
is a shareholder on the record date you are entitled to a
dividend.
[05:00:11 PM] => Abhayyadav: Why
are MFs playing bear when FIIs are playing bulls?
[05:01:23 PM] => SNR: Domestic
mutual funds have been witnessing redemptions in the past
few months. Further there has been a realignment in most balanced
funds on the equity component which has led to selling.
[05:02:09 PM] => FIIs
have been buying on the other hand because they have seen
a fall in prices and therefore an attractive valuation.
[05:02:59 PM] => Nehal: At what
level of sensex or after how much fall in sensex, you decide
that it is a bear market?
[05:03:47 PM] => SNR: Though there
are no precise numbers a fall of one third in price and no
bounce back thereafter would suggest that we are in a bear
market.
[05:06:01 PM] => Sunil: Do you
see your tech fund coming up now and becoming a success?
[05:06:59 PM] => SNR: The outlook
for technology companies at this point of time is not very
favorable and there is little consensus on when things will
change. The spate of profit warnings continues in the US and
it looks like things will remain the same for another two
quarters before we see positive surprises.
[05:07:57 PM] => Sandeep: Are
MF's facing redemption pressure. Is it one of the reasons
why they are selling or is it that they have a contraries
view to what the other Institutional investors have.
[05:08:33 PM] => SNR: The main
reason is redemption and realignment of the equity component
downwards in balance funds.
[05:10:04 PM] => Anish: Your view
on the economy and the stock market. Do you see a revival
in the second half of the year. How would you restructure
your portfolio given the circumstances
[05:10:40 PM] => SNR: The economy
will at best see a GDP growth of 6 %. Things are tough right
now. We do not see a major change in our portfolio because
they have been structured to meet investment objectives.
[05:10:50 PM] => Myiris
: Hang on Friends, Mr Rajan is on a important call
[05:12:51 PM] => Rameshg: Given
that MF's and the Fund managers did not understand our operator
driven markets (pretty evident seeing the NAV's) what hope
do you see for you and other MF's in a concept driven market
of F & O's which are alien to you but not the FII?
[05:13:36 PM] => SNR: It is possible
not to play into the hands of the operators if one is cautious
. I do not see your point that derivatives are the monopoly
of FIIs.
[05:14:39 PM] => Ashok: What are
your views about the media sector and Zee Telefilms in particular?
[05:15:27 PM] => SNR: The genera
downtrend in industry has led to reduced ad spend by companies
and this has affected the fortune of the media sector and
especially TV and print channels. Zee after a slippage in
TRP ratings has managed to comeback in ratings
[05:17:23 PM] => Rpanikar: Is
this really a bear phase or just a tech correction?
[05:17:54 PM] => SNR: I do not
see a correction of more than 15% from correct levels. I don�t
know what to call it.
[05:22:06 PM] => Myiris
: Sorry friends, Just a small break for a minute, Mr Rajan
has a very important call
[05:28:57 PM] => Jajoo:MF's account
for less than 10% of the BSE market cap while FII's account
for approx 25%. Why doesn\'t the investor base place their
money with you fund managers and strengthen your base . Is
it a question of trust?
[05:29:45 PM] => SNR: A majority
of investors (in value terms) prefer to access the market
directly which is not the case in most developed markets.Further
just placing the money with domestic funds does not necessarily
result in strengthening our hands because it is not going
to stay permanently.
[05:30:52 PM] => Priya2512:What
kind of an investment strategy would you advice investors
while selecting equity funds? How could an investor diversify
his/her risk?
[05:31:41 PM] => SNR: If you are
not one of the adventurous ones you must maintain a balanced
allocation to various sectors.Always keep in mind the sector�s
weightage in the index and never end up being say 100 per
cent overweight in a particular sector which could currently
be enjoying the status of the hottest sector
[05:32:26 PM] => My advice would
be to keep a cap of 30 per cent overweight.Exxample if a sector
is 20 per cent in the index you could go upto 26 per cent.This
is not to confuse with investing only in the index stocks.You
could choose non-index stocks from the sector.If you are looking
at investing at equity funds look at funds which satisfy the
above criteria
[05:33:26 PM] => Rupeshmr: What
are the parameters used for selecting IT/Media stocks?
[05:40:10 PM] => Myiris: Hang
on friends, Mr Rajan will be back in a minute
[05:43:58 PM] => SNR:
Since IT stocks are very volatile you must be careful .Choose
the leaders which have large market Cap,have a good management
and compete with the best in the world which gets reflected
by the quality of their clients.Media stocks should be chosen
looking at the management and the viewership rankings.
[05:45:19 PM] => Rniranjan: How
do you distinguish K30 from other diversified equity funds
of Investments philosophy and investment style?
[05:46:08 PM] => SNR: K 30 is
a diversified equity fund with no concentration to any particular
sector.Currently we are less than 10 per cent overweight in
tech and intend maintaining only such moderate overweight.
To this extent we will be different from other diversified
funds which may take overexposure to a hot sector.Through
this strategy we expect to achieve growth without being volatile
[05:47:02 PM] => Rhpatil : Which
are the sectors that you are bullish about and where are you
bearish?
[05:48:04 PM] => SNR: We are bullish
on Technology,Finance and Banking,Cement and PSUs.
[05:49:50 PM] => Namratat: Do
you feel investors expectation from mutual funds had been
built up to an unreasonable extent?
[05:50:33 PM] => SNR: Yes. Great
performances about two years back built up a lot of expectation.Looking
back we now notice that such extraordinary returns were exceptions.If
one consistently gets a return of 50 per cent over fixed income
instruments it would be a very good return.
[05:51:47 PM] => Mukundr: Do you
think prices of information technology stocks will come back
to their higher levels?
[05:52:05 PM] => SNR: Definitely
not.
[05:52:47 PM] => Singhvinod: What
is your view on financial sector?
[05:53:51 PM] => SNR: Globally
the financial sector is a very important sector.It is in less
than seven per cent of the index in India.Going forward we
expect this sector to gain prominence.The recent increase
in stake in Corporation Bank by LIC to 27 per cent is just
the beginning of many such alliances.We will see a lot of
consolidation and also take over of Indian private sector
banks by foreign banks.
[05:56:44 PM] => Santhily: The
investors who invested in the tech funds about a year back
have seen the NAV of the funds decline to as low as Rs 3.00.
What would be you recommend to them?
[05:57:20 PM] => SNR: It is quite
unfortunate that the possibility of such a steep fall was
not highlighted enough by the industry at the time of launch
of tech funds.To this extent it is difficult to accept such
a fall.
[05:57:47 PM] => But
unfortunately nothing can be done about it.Averaging is not
a solution.I must reiterate the perils of investing in sector
funds and concentration of the individual�s portfolio in few
stocks or sectors.
[05:58:58 PM] => Renko : Is this
the right time for small investor?
[06:01:45 PM] => Renko : Is this
the right time to invest for the small investor?
[06:03:15 PM] => SNR:
There is no such right time , if you have no exposure to the
market you must consider investment at this time.
[06:04:50 PM] => Jayeshlshah:
After investing in Bear markets, at what levels should one
exit the stocks or book profits, cause everyone advices for
investing, but no one tells you when to exit or sell the stocks
[06:05:38 PM] => SNR: As stated
earlier a consistent year after year return of 50 per cent
over fixed income instruments can be considered a very good
return.Very often one gets absolute returns in excess of 30
per cent when investing in bear markets.I would sell more
than 50 per cent of the stock if it gives a return of 30 per
cent flat and thereafter sell at every rise.One must apply
the principle of averaging even on the selling side i.e. sell
at every rise.
[06:06:44 PM] => Singhvinod :
Is it not true that maintaining NAV's could prohibit fund
managers from taking a truly long term perspective?
[06:06:57 PM] => SNR: No
[06:10:29 PM] => Suma: A debt
fund with 60% exposure to GoI sec and a fund with 30% each
in Corporate debt / Bonds and go Sec. Which is better?
[06:11:02 PM] => SNR: A:Assuming
that you are satisfied with the ratings of the corporate debt
the latter is better.
[06:12:05 PM] => Ravi: What about
stocks like L&T, TATA TEA ? I believe a lot of upside is possible
from current levels . L&T upto Rs. 400 + levels and TATA TEA
upto Rs. 500 + levels . What do you feel ?
[06:12:18 PM] => SNR: Looks very
unlikely.
[06:13:08 PM] => Milind: Is it
right time to enter into IT stocks?
[06:13:47 PM] => SNR: Unfortunately
it is not possible to predict a right time. If you have an
exposure already to IT stocks of about 25 per cent of your
equity portfolio, you must resist any temptation to add to
it. If you do not have any IT exposure currently you could
make it about 15 per cent at current prices
[06:14:48 PM] => Manu: When do
you see a reversal in the interest rate trend
[06:15:40 PM] => SNR: Current
expectations are that rates will continue to be soft for the
next 6 months
[06:16:09 PM] => Rakesh: Why did
you launch an MNC fund? DO you believe that MNCs do better
than Indian firms?
[06:16:57 PM] => SNR: There is
a section of investing community which finds comfort in MNC
stocks.The MNC fund is primarily meant to cater to such a
requirement. We hold no such view that one is better than
the other.There are good Indian Companies and there are good
MNCs.
[06:17:21 PM] => Ayush: I have
100 DSQ at 2300 levels. Should i buy 100 more at these levels
to reduce my average costs.
[06:17:48 PM] => SNR: Averaging
should not be the sole reason for buying DSQ at this price.If
you find a better stock at current prices it would be advisable
to buy the same.Your initial purchase cost is irrelevant.
[06:18:25 PM] => Kandaswamy: What
% of a fund can be invested in a rival / same group funds?
[06:18:57 PM] => SNR: Currently
upto 25 per cent of the net assets can be invested in listed
investments of group companies. Suitable disclosure has to
be made on such investments in group companies. I must add
that we do not have any investment in group companies.
[06:19:46 PM] => Sunita_rao: Why
do you have so many serial plans? How are they different?
Why has SEBI Banned the launch of new serial plans?
[06:20:11 PM] => SNR: We have
different serial plans because the duration of each of them
is different.Sebi has not banned launch of new serial plans.
[06:21:21 PM] => Preetam: Why
is that none of the fund managers saw the crash coming? Are
fund managers as ill equpped as the ordinary investor to predict/
anticipate what will happen?
[06:21:56 PM] => A:Fund managers
are not supernatural beings.If one could successfully predict
one would not be managing others money.You could have individuals
who are better than the best fund managers.What the fund manager
does is to invest in the best of the companies.
[06:23:31 PM] => Suma: What are
PPDs? What if a debt fund has exposure to PPDs?
[06:23:43 PM] => SNR: PPDs are
privately placed debt where there is an arranger.There is
nothing wrong if a fund has exposure to such PPDs.What is
important is the quality of the paper.
[06:24:11 PM] => Ajitha: In a
debt portfolio what are the things the fund manager looks
at?
[06:24:31 PM] => SNR: The most
important would be the quality of the credit.Liquidity also
assumes importance because of the open ended structure.
[06:25:01 PM] => RPK: Do you thing
this is the right time to invest in equity schemes
[06:25:17 PM] => SNR; Already
answered.
[06:25:55 PM] => Pradeep: Do you
think there is a future in investing on the internet? DO you
think MF investing will happen online too?
[06:26:29 PM] => SNR: As connectivity
improves investors will realize the ease of investing through
the net.Investors can already invest in a few mutual funds
online.
[06:28:59 PM]
=> Kamalrangan: i feel barring 10 companies
in software all are bogus companies making only entriesin
the books since they have no tax of anysort whatever they
show as profit one has to take pl comment
[06:29:22 PM] => SNR: Just because
a company has no tax one must not conclude that it�s not a
genuine company. Because of tax free exports we could have
companies not providing for tax.
[06:29:46 PM] => Abhishek: What
are your views on Global Trust Bank ?
[06:30:32 PM] => SNR: No comments
on individual stocks.
[06:30:42 PM] => 123: What is
your view on the interest rates 12-24 month period? Do you
expect a reversal in the downward trend?
[06:31:13 PM] => SNR : Already
answered. Unless we see a pick up in industrial demand rates
will continue to be soft.
[06:31:36 PM] => Raj: you seem
to be a passive investor, not much churning in portfolio while
other mutual funds are supposed be aggresive traders also
Dont you believe that the market going no where some sort
of trading necessary for optimizing returns
[06:32:00 PM] => SNR: While agreeing
with your view that one needs to trade to optimize returns
we prefer to be less aggressive on this front.
[06:33:03 PM] => Ravi: What are
three major parameters one investor has to see before investing
in equities. Please also name three good companies quoting
below 30 Rs for 3 year frame
[06:33:21 PM] => SNR: Quality
of management,growth prospects and valuations.
[06:33:49 PM] => Balachandran:
Don't you think low HLL valuations are sort of an overreaction?
On a medium term (the years) do you see a rerating of the
stock especially since brand restructuring is underway?
[06:34:25 PM] => SNR: HLL is finding
it difficult to have top line growth.The expected pick up
in rural demand does�nt seem to be happening.On top of it,
it is witnessing aggressive competition from foreign as well
as Indian players.It has still managed to achieve profit growth
due to operating efficiencies to which there is always a limit.
[06:34:45 PM] => .
Recent ORG numbers suggest that there is no improvement.However
the company has strong brand and every fall will provide a
good opportunity to buy.One must sell if you see a 25 per
cent return.
[06:35:41 PM] => Krishnaswamy:
How is the company called CG-Igarashi Motors Ltd?
[06:36:08 PM] => SNR: They seem
to be doing well on the export front. They have a strong Japanese
collaborator who also has a stake in the company. It is one
of the leading exporters of micro motors.
[06:38:37 PM] => Abhishek: I have
bought some shares of GTB at a price of 28.50, should I sell
the stock or hold it ?
[06:39:03 PM] => SNR: No comments.
[06:40:04 PM] => Rajalakshmi:
Why is it that a company like Reliance Petroleum with no distribution
infrastructure commands higher valuations than a HPCL which
has a good distribution network, pipelines and multi location
plants?
[06:40:34 PM] => Rajalakshmi:
Why is it that a company like Reliance Petroleum with no distribution
infrastructure commands higher valuations than a HPCL which
has a good distribution network, pipelines and multi location
plants?
[06:41:10 PM] => SNR: HPCL like
many other PSUs suffer from a low valuation because it is
a PSU.The Reliance group is perceived as a group which has
delivered superior returns to it�s shareholders.It has demonstrated
its capability by setting a world class manufacturing facility.It�s
just a question of time before it builds up a distribution
network.
[06:41:32 PM] => Incidentally
another PSU,IBP is being divested by the government and access
to such a company will provide Reliance wit the much needed
network.I must also add that many of the current distributors
of PSU oil companies are dealer owned and they could shift
loyalty to a new player like Reliance if it makes economic
sense.
[06:42:23 PM] => Subbukannan:
Do you think that it is the right time to invest in equity
market or to wait for some more time? 2. Is the bond fund
looking risky now considering the large scale appreciation
in bond market.
[06:42:46 PM] => SNR: Q1 already
answered.
[06:42:59 PM] => Regarding
the bond fund if you have a longer term view of a year plus
it�s not as risky as investing for a 2-3 month period.
[06:43:32 PM] => Nikhil: What
is your view on Syngenta India?
[06:43:43 PM] => SNR: No comments
[06:44:38 PM] => Sam: It seems
that PSUs like MTNL and VSNL will have to be sold for scrap
if they are not privatised immediately. Your comment.
[06:45:09 PM] => SNR: A:Since
there are existing private players in the sector who are growing
more aggressively than MTNL and VSNL, any delay will mean
competing with stronger well entrenched players for the new
entrant.
[06:47:42 PM] => Bakul: how is
neyvelilignite co making huge cash acruals of 1000
[06:47:59 PM] => SNR: ROE and
EPS are very low inspite of huge cash accrual.
[06:50:55 PM] => Myiris : That's
all friends for today, Due to time constraint Mr Rajan will
not answer any further questions
[06:52:08 PM] => All the unanswered
questions will be answered by Mr Rajan and will be put along
with the transcript on our site
[06:53:02 PM] => Thank you Mr
Rajan for your valuable time and having such a informative
chat session
[06:53:45 PM] => SNR : Thank you
all at Myiris and all the participant, It was great pleasure
answering your questions.
[06:55:26 PM] => Myiris : Thank
you all the participants and do join us for another chat session
on Friday, June 15, 2001 with Mr Mukul Pal, financial analyst
Derivatives & Investments from India Bulls
[06:55:49 PM] => Thank you all
and bye for now
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