[04:30:24 PM]
=> Myiris : A very warm welcome to myiris
chatmasala
[04:32:32 PM] => Myiris
: Our guest for the day, Mr. Tridib Pathak, Fund Manager-
Equity, IDBI-PRINCIPAL Asset Management Co. Ltd will be joining
us shortly.
[04:32:44 PM] => DISCLAIMER :
[04:33:32 PM] => Mr.
Tridib Pathak is the Fund Manager- Equity, IDBI-PRINCIPAL
Asset Management Co. Ltd. At the time of this conversation
/ chat, Mr. Tridib Pathak may or may not have positions in
the stocks mentioned below, although holdings may change at
any time. The views expressed by Mr. Pathak is based upon
information that he considers reliable, but does not represent
that it is accurate or complete, and it should not be relied
upon as such. Mr. Pathak, his company and its affiliates,
officers, directors, partners, and employees may, from time
to time, have long or short positions in, buy or sell and
deal as principal in the securities, or derivatives thereof,
of companies mentioned herein and may take positions inconsistent
with the views expressed.
[04:34:02 PM] => None of the information
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a recommendation of any particular security or trading strategy
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suitable for any specific person. To the extent any of the
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[04:34:48 PM] => Lastly the views
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the use of such information. IRIS especially states that it
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[04:35:06 PM] => Welcome to the
chat session Mr. Pathak.
[04:36:20 PM] => Rakesh Nehra:
What would be an ideal asset allocation for an investor?
[04:37:46 PM] => TP
: There is no ideal asset allocation, since it is different
from one individual to another. Asset allocation differs from
each individual based on various factors such as � the age
of the investor, risk profile of the investor, return expectations
of the investor and overall investment objectives/goals. Please
refer to sections on asset allocation and planning guide on
our website www.idbiprincipal.com which help an investor define
his asset allocation.
[04:39:14 PM] => GladwinM: Could
you elaborate on your investment philosophy? What about IDBI
Equity fund?
[04:40:04 PM] => TP
: Simply put, our investment philosophy is to identify and
benefit from gaps in share prices and share values. There
a 3 important aspects to our investment philosophy:
[04:41:20 PM] => a)
Consistency of performance. We strive to outperform the markets
on a consistent basis across time horizons. We do not want
to be top performers in this quarter/half year/year and be
worst performers in the next quarter/half year/year. We would
rather like to be in the top decile of performers all the
time.
[04:42:32 PM] => b)
Disciplined approach. We are not momentum driven. Our investments
are made after a due process and based on a fundamental evaluation
of investment alternatives using our in-house research team.
[04:43:16 PM] => c)
Appropriate risk management. We are risk aware, not risk averse.
We manage risks so that we can deliver consistent performance.
For e.g we strive to achieve a proper balance concentration
risk and diversification risk in our portfolio.
[04:43:45 PM] => I
manage the Growth Fund (a diversified equity fund, launched
last year as a part of our Future Goal Series) and the Tax
Savings Fund (an Equity Fund with ELSS Tax benefits). Presume
your question is with respect to Growth Fund. Our Growth Fund
has outperformed the markets across all time horizons.
[04:46:14 PM] => Nissar K: Do
you think the ongoing Afghan war will have a long-term impact
on the markets?
[04:47:59 PM] => TP
: Much depends on extent and nature of a resolution of the
war on terrorism. Surely globalization and World Trade are
the major losers in case there is a prolonged crisis. In such
instances and in instances of a global recession, the risks
are lower for nations which have lesser leverage to world
economy and which have a strong domestic economy.
[04:48:49 PM] => Harimohan: When
you are benchmarking against the markets, and when suddenly
everything goes down, do you revise your targets? Or try to
maintain the same levels?
[04:50:07 PM] => TP
: We are benchmarked against the markets all the time on a
rolling basis with a minimum investment horizon of 12 months.
Our stock/sector weights are based on expectations of outperforming
the markets, whether on the downside or the upside.
[04:51:06 PM] => Balram Jain:
Is there a good method of identifying quality equity funds?
Or is it a matter of luck?!!
[04:54:13 PM] => TP
: Quality equity funds provide consistent outperformance to
markets. Watch the investment philosophy of the fund and the
Portfolio.
[04:54:41 PM] => Sanjayn: Please
give me one good pick each from Pharma and FMCG?
[04:55:02 PM] => TP
: Request you to check our portfolio at our website www.idbiprincipal.com.
[04:56:00 PM] => Raghu: Sir, I
invested with a lot of hope in a private sector IT fund. Now
it has gone to dogs. Should I get out or take a long -term
view and wait?
[04:58:36 PM] => TP
: Sector Funds have a higher risk profile than Diversified
Equity Funds, at all times. Current times are good for long
term investments in equities as a class of asset. Whether
you remain invested in sector funds or not, once again depends
on your risk profile.
[05:01:43 PM] => Reddy G: How
would you compare the performance of your funds? Do you have
any internal benchmarking system in place?
[05:02:07 PM] => TP
: We are benchmarked against the S&P Nifty.
[05:03:38 PM] => Guest: What do
you think for the market in a one-month horizon?
[05:04:35 PM] => TP
: We think that one cannot call the markets on short time
horizons. We are bullish on the markets with a time horizon
of more than a year.
[05:05:08 PM] => Ram34 : When
do you feel the current down turn would change?
[05:05:54 PM] => TP
: We are not market timers. In any case, it is always very
difficult to time the market.
[05:07:27 PM] => Mitra : Which
sector do you think will do well in the foreseeable future?
[05:08:47 PM] => TP
: We are overweight Pharma, FMCG, Oil and Media sectors.
[05:09:27 PM] => Murali : What
are the target returns that you are aiming for in both IDBI
Equity and Index funds? The figures are not very encouraging
so far.
[05:11:49 PM] => TP
: In actively managed funds, the target is to outperform the
markets across all time horizons. Index Funds, by their definition,
perform with the markets sans a tracking deviation. Our Growth
Fund has outperformed the markets across time horizons. We
have the lowest tracking deviation in our index fund.
[05:12:07 PM] => AJ : Any new
funds that IDBI is thinking of coming out with?
[05:14:03 PM] => TP
: No new funds in the immediate future.
[05:14:52 PM] => Murali : Do you
see the interest rates coming down any further?
[05:18:36 PM] => TP
: We expect a flattish trend going forward. Any chances of
a further softening of interest rates may be nullified by
an industrial and economic recovery in 2H.
[05:19:01 PM] => Uma Dutt : Despite
the tech downturn, Fund Managers still seems to have a good
opinion about the big boys like Infy and Wipro. Is it justified?
[05:20:15 PM] => TP
: We think that only the top 4-5 companies have the best chance
of further benefiting from India�s competitive ability in
software services, especially offshore services. These companies
have the critical mass, relationships, track record and successful
offshore delivery models.
[05:21:45 PM] => Suryaprakash
: Sir, Why is it that you are heavily into old economy scrips?
Have you lost faith in the new economy?!!
[05:22:33 PM] => TP
: We believe in a well-diversified portfolio. There is only
one economy, the so-called new economy is based on the same
tenets as seen in the so-called old economy.
[05:23:36 PM] => Guest: What's
the wisest course to take in a recession? Do I get out of
the markets or buy up?
[05:24:19 PM] => TP
: India is still not in a recession, what we are experiencing
is a slow down. May be the U.S. economy and the Global economy
are in a recession. In fact India�s strength is that it is
a domestic economy with a lower leverage to the world & U.S
economy as seen in our low export/GDP ratio.
[05:24:48 PM] => Anyway,
recessions and slow downs have always ultimately proven to
be good times to invest in equities but with a longer time
horizon of not less than a year.
[05:26:13 PM] => Malhotra : Sir,
Do you comment on specific stocks? Tell me about Silverline?
[05:26:28 PM] => TP
: As a policy, we do not comment on specific stocks.
[05:26:48 PM] => Prabhakar: Which
are the sectors that you are bullish about and where are you
bearish?
[05:27:30 PM] => TP
: We are overweight Pharma, Oil, Banking, FMCG and Media sectors.
We are underweight domestic and industrial cyclical sectors.
[05:28:06 PM] => Raghu : Dear
Sir, What do you think of the markets in general? I think
fund managers should be more active and come out and educate
investors so that there's a greater mobilization of economy.
[05:28:40 PM] => TP
: Equity markets, we think, are at extremely attractive levels
and we certainly think that these are the times to invest
in equities with a minimum one-year horizon. Valuations are
at 8-9 year lows. Indian markets valuations are very attractive
relative to most emerging markets. Being a domestic economy,
India�s macro fundamentals are relatively better off. We are
hopeful of a second-half recovery led by rural demand.
[05:29:17 PM] => Sentiment
in the markets is bad. While last year - 2000 we saw greed,
we are now seeing fear. Investing in such times always pays
off in the long run. Also, liquidity position in the financial
system is benign. FII inflows continue to be positive and
may well continue to be positive given India�s relative attractiveness
in the emerging market universe.
[05:29:51 PM] => Ranvir : Where
do you see the IT stocks and BSE sensex by March 2002?
[05:30:22 PM] => TP
: We think that one cannot call the markets on short time
horizons. Our positive stance on the markets on longer horizon
is explained earlier.
[05:31:36 PM] => Gomez: Does balanced
funds offer the best option to the investors?
[05:32:24 PM] => TP
: Please refer to our discussion on Asset allocation and our
website for Planning Guides. As is obvious, Balanced Funds
carry a higher risk/return profile than Income Funds and a
lower risk/return profile than Equity Funds.
[05:32:58 PM] => Nirmal: Do you
think the auto sector will do well? Most of the funds seem
to be investing heavily in the sector?
[05:34:03 PM] => TP
: We are underweight the Auto sector. Barring cyclical upswings,
we think companies in the industry are facing severe competitive
pressures. The Recent high growth rates of 2-wheelers sales
may not be sustainable.
[05:34:29 PM] => Avinash_M: Do
you see a reversal in fortune for the tech sector?
[05:35:26 PM] => TP
: We think that only the top 4 - 5 companies have the best
chance of further benefiting from India�s competitive ability
in software services, especially offshore services. These
companies have the critical mass, relationships, track record
and successful offshore delivery models. But the high growth
rates of the past, may be difficult to replicate.
[05:36:46 PM] => Rajesh _C : What's
the hope for small investors like me, when apart from all
too brief periods of earnings, the markets seem to be in a
permanent state of manipulation?
[05:37:29 PM] => TP
: Over the last few years, a lot of systemic reforms have
been carried out in the stock market - online trading, demat,
mutual funds , rolling settlements etc. which work for the
advantage of the small investor and reduce the scope of manipulation.
For our views on the market, refer earlier questions.
[05:37:54 PM] => Nilesh : Sir,
What's you outlook on cement and media?
[05:38:50 PM] => TP
: We are underweight the cement sector. Alleged cartelisation/
price understanding in the cement industry is a sign of weakness
not strength. The moment demand growth picks up and the underlying
fundamentals look good, we think that price understandings
could break. The cement industry does not have a good track
record of profitable operations i.e. returning their cost
of capital.
[05:39:09 PM] => We
are overweight the media sector. We like diversified and multiple
revenue stream stories in the media sector.
[05:40:10 PM] => KP : What is
the future of mutual fund industry in India?
[05:41:03 PM] => TP
: The mutual fund industry is just at the nascent stage and
holds a bright future. Investor awareness/education and right
selling of mutual fund concepts by the industry will go a
long way in promoting the industry.
[05:42:57 PM] => Shamim : I wish
to invest in shares. Please suggest ideal ones.
[05:43:21 PM] => TP
: Please invest in mutual funds. For individual investors
who do not have the ability and resources to study companies
and stock markets, mutual funds are the best vehicle.
[05:43:53 PM] => Ravi Kannan :
What'll be the effect of F&Os in the Indian markets?
[05:44:26 PM] => TP
: Will over time, give the much required depth and liquidity
to the markets.
[05:44:38 PM] => Puneet: What
is your view on the ICE sector in the coming months?
[05:44:48 PM] => TP
: Already answered.
[05:45:10 PM] => Vinoo: Sir, Do
you think index funds are a good idea at times like these?
[05:45:40 PM] => TP
: Within equity funds, Index Funds are lower risk and lower
cost investments. Equity markets are attractively poised for
investors who have at least a one-year�s outlook.
[05:46:14 PM] => Manoj Kumar :
What is the reason that investors prefer private sector mutual
fund as compared to public sector mutual fund? Is it general
lack of faith in those institutions?
[05:47:15 PM] => TP
: Some factors that one should consider before investing in
a mutual fund are - investment philosophy, track record, expertise
and standing of its sponsors.
[05:48:04 PM] => Mangesh_G : Are
looking at new ways in terms of distribution of funds?
[05:48:42 PM] => TP
: IDBI-Principal has pioneered the use of Post Offices as
a distribution vehicle via its tie-up with India Posts early
this year. We will keep looking for more innovative methods
of reaching prospective investors be it retail or corporate.
[05:49:37 PM] => Jayesh Seth :
What factors do you look at while selecting scrips? Do fund
managers take a short-term view on some stocks?
[05:50:33 PM] => TP
: We look at 3 factors - a) Business Franchise, b) Management
Quality and c) Valuations. We do not take short-term views
on stocks.
[05:51:14 PM] => Robin-S : I shall
like to know about the future plan of your fund?
[05:51:45 PM] => TP
: Further deepen the mutual fund markets by leveraging on
our existing innovative products such as asset allocation,
triggers, SIPs etc.
[05:52:19 PM] => Harihar : What
is your outlook for the tech sector for the next 6-months?
[05:52:38 PM] => TP
: Answered earlier.
[05:53:04 PM] => Ayan : Sir, what
is your view on market? Will pre Sept. 11 levels should be
attained soon or will take time?
[05:53:17 PM] => TP
: Answered earlier.
[05:54:37 PM] => GladwinM: Sir,
As you said in your answer, having a disciplined investment
philosophy, but don't you think that could lead to some pain
if you miss out on a boom?
[05:55:15 PM] => TP
: Disciplined approach actually helps to outperform markets
across time horizons.
[05:56:02 PM] => Raghu : Sir,
regarding sector funds, you said it depends on the risk profile,
I as an investor is looking at a 2-year period. Do I still
stay invested?
[05:56:56 PM] => TP
: We are currently underweight the IT sector.
[05:57:19 PM] => Saji : Sir, what
you think of new purchase of Zee?
[05:58:00 PM] => TP
: As per our policy we do no comment on individual stocks.
[05:58:28 PM] => Saji : Sir, I
what is your opinion about buying new shares of IPCA Laboratories?
[05:59:09 PM] => TP
: As per our policy we do no comment on individual stocks.
[05:59:41 PM] => Myiris : That's
the end of the chat session for today.
[06:01:05 PM] => Myiris : We thank
you all for your participation
[06:02:28 PM] => Myiris
: Thank you Mr. Tridib Pathak for making this an insightful
and lively session.
[06:03:26 PM] => Myiris
: That's all from us for today and we'll be back on Friday
with more on myiris chatmasala.
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